One can hope... and bring back forums?
The end of Discord?
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emily
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In the u.s there is some hope against age verification. In some states like Ohio the courts had actually ruled that social media age verification to be blocked as unconstitutional. However this likely doesn't apply to every single state in the u.s.
The worst of these laws were actually made in specific states, such as Texas where they would prevent usage of downloading even basic apps like calculators on app stores without age verification and parental consent, that wasn't just about nsfw and social media sites, this was branching into general content. blocked by courts thankfully. I could only imagined if that were to reach there u.s states.
In the u.s regarding legality the worst a website likely would have to age verify for would be ai chatbots, not safe for work focused websites and apps. In my state there are zero enforceable social media age verification laws so when I see a site still asking for age verification, which is generally a global regulation thing. (which I'm not against globaliation when actually beneficial to people.) But when it comes to forcing people to submit an id or face scan and risking getting your id stolen especialy when your location has no such law. That is a problem.
One important note, these apps and websites make a lot of money off your data. So they'l use terms like "global regulations" in their terms of use (Sony did this recently with psn as a real example.) because they probably want that info to make more money off of your data. Also so they don't get sued for saying it was a direct law related to a specific location. Because if your actual state didn't have such a law and they acted like they were enforcing it but you didn't actually have that obligation or law where you lived, that could be potentially libel. You can kinda see how they make that work.
The worst of these laws were actually made in specific states, such as Texas where they would prevent usage of downloading even basic apps like calculators on app stores without age verification and parental consent, that wasn't just about nsfw and social media sites, this was branching into general content. blocked by courts thankfully. I could only imagined if that were to reach there u.s states.
In the u.s regarding legality the worst a website likely would have to age verify for would be ai chatbots, not safe for work focused websites and apps. In my state there are zero enforceable social media age verification laws so when I see a site still asking for age verification, which is generally a global regulation thing. (which I'm not against globaliation when actually beneficial to people.) But when it comes to forcing people to submit an id or face scan and risking getting your id stolen especialy when your location has no such law. That is a problem.
One important note, these apps and websites make a lot of money off your data. So they'l use terms like "global regulations" in their terms of use (Sony did this recently with psn as a real example.) because they probably want that info to make more money off of your data. Also so they don't get sued for saying it was a direct law related to a specific location. Because if your actual state didn't have such a law and they acted like they were enforcing it but you didn't actually have that obligation or law where you lived, that could be potentially libel. You can kinda see how they make that work.
emily
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Could forums provide an alternative? I would say it depends. It gets legally tricky even in the u.s. . because even if some states had ruled age verification unconstitutional this hasn't exactly made it to the supreme court so this is a state by state basis. You could just bank on your site being to small to get on their radar as long that you aren't doing anything else particularly alarming like enabling piracy or enabling lolicon. No one would really care like most advocacy groups are against age verification law.
The only 'karens' I could think of that would benefit from reporting a small site would be big tech going out of their way to make more money off of age verification.
It's likely still going to get pushed by large companies like Meta as "global regulations" legally mandated for your location or not. because of the value of data. Plus as investors keep pressuring publicly traded companies (which publicly traded sounds good but it really just forces even more expensive prices compared to if a business was just private or atleast modern tends would have you believe that to be the case.) to make more money in order to keep social media sites free, in order for them to serve ads and collect your data, they will do anything ('they' being companies like Meta, and Google) to please their investors new impossible demands.
Once you understand who age verification is really benefiting and who lobbied for it. If you didn't know, Meta lobbied for age verification in more ten one country including the u.s . Then you can use that to find out why it's a "global regulation" when a company tell you that in their terms of service. Because they don't care if it is legal in your area or not. They want that profitable data.
Now smaller companies however will care about age verification laws to cover themselves from lawsuits so don't get mad at them. But when you see a terms of service say "due to global regulations" you'l know its all bs.
The only 'karens' I could think of that would benefit from reporting a small site would be big tech going out of their way to make more money off of age verification.
It's likely still going to get pushed by large companies like Meta as "global regulations" legally mandated for your location or not. because of the value of data. Plus as investors keep pressuring publicly traded companies (which publicly traded sounds good but it really just forces even more expensive prices compared to if a business was just private or atleast modern tends would have you believe that to be the case.) to make more money in order to keep social media sites free, in order for them to serve ads and collect your data, they will do anything ('they' being companies like Meta, and Google) to please their investors new impossible demands.
Once you understand who age verification is really benefiting and who lobbied for it. If you didn't know, Meta lobbied for age verification in more ten one country including the u.s . Then you can use that to find out why it's a "global regulation" when a company tell you that in their terms of service. Because they don't care if it is legal in your area or not. They want that profitable data.
Now smaller companies however will care about age verification laws to cover themselves from lawsuits so don't get mad at them. But when you see a terms of service say "due to global regulations" you'l know its all bs.