Big Teach defending itself from infringement claims

[Kimby]

Yesterday Adobe made a big announcement with it's new ToS and now Big Tech made Chamber of Progress, a coalition for defend the use of copyrighted works for train AI systems.
Meta made many artists move to Cara (Portfolio platform), maybe Big Tech companies are accelerating their own dead.

Big Tech Launches Campaign to Defend AI Use

Chamber of Progress, in a campaign called "Generate and Create," says it will showcase "how AI lowers barriers for producing art."

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[chikorita157]

It's obvious they want wholesale stealing of people's works without consent. The unfortinate thing is that Adobe has a strangehold of the creative market and the alternatives aren't as feature rich or easy to use in comparison, especially the open source solutions.

Affinity products are close to what Adobe can provide although work somewhat differently, but even the future of that is questionable as the company that bought it might turn it into a subscription.

That said, I still self host, just wondering when something like Nightshade, but for writing will become a thing.

 

[emily]

If ai training somehow finds a legal way through, 'without consent.' then the sad truth is the companies that had built and train their ai now, while have control and dictatorship over everyone else in the *online content creation space. In regards to, physical manga, books and DVDs, these markets would not be as effected and may even be the future yet again as ai ruins the internet.

One way ai training could find a legal loophole would be similar to what Disney did not to long ago, for example a company could just say, "if you agree to these terms you agree that we could use ai training on you and your data."

Legally, and technically that is consent if you agreed willingly. Even if you didn't care to read it and just wanted to hurry up to use the service.

Another way is for large companies to do what they do best and sway lawmakers behind close doors. They may even try to make it where it favors just the companies that invested in it the earliest, by introducing laws that other companies have to follow that the big companies would not need to, as they would either already have all the data, or the most data compared to the smaller companies.

 

[Kimby]

If ai training somehow finds a legal way through, 'without consent.' then the sad truth is the companies that had built and train their ai now, while have control and dictatorship over everyone else in the *online content creation space. In regards to, physical manga, books and DVDs, these markets would not be as effected and may even be the future yet again as ai ruins the internet.

One way ai training could find a legal loophole would be similar to what Disney did not to long ago, for example a company could just say, "if you agree to these terms you agree that we could use ai training on you and your data."

Legally, and technically that is consent if you agreed willingly. Even if you didn't care to read it and just wanted to hurry up to use the service.

Another way is for large companies to do what they do best and sway lawmakers behind close doors. They may even try to make it where it favors just the companies that invested in it the earliest, by introducing laws that other companies have to follow that the big companies would not need to, as they would either already have all the data, or the most data compared to the smaller companies.

Seems that the internet future will be more dark :c

Maybe it will make traditional physical media to come back

 

[emily]

What we need to combat this is, some media companies content gets used without consent by an ai. But no one through that company who obtains specific ownership of said ip should had agreed to the terms of that ai service. In other words, said media company never had a account created on that service in the first place. That's the only way I think anyone could successfully challenge an ai's infringement moving forward now since everything is small user (or indie dev) foolproof for the ai companies.

So basically Disney or Nintendo. Maybe Viacom and Paramount. But it's not enough just for them to have a property to sue the ai services for, they must not had agreed to any terms and conditions at all in their history.